Wednesday, October 14, 2009
Hattie Jermulowske DNA Received
The wife of Nathan Goldfoot was Hattie Jermulowske, our grandmother. Her DNA was received today in familytreedna in Houston, Texas. It'll probably take a few months for a result and then we'll find out what haplogroup she belonged to. This is very exciting for me. It's like a toss of the die. What will it turn out to be? I have my bets down. Hattie was an extremely short person, about 4'7 or 8" tall. She had had her leg or legs broken in Poland from some reason or other, either an accident or pogrom. She had black very curly hair and rather swarthy complexion. Her daughter, Elsie, carried on her coloring and also had the curly coal black hair, brown eyes.
So did her son, Charlie, while the other two children had the coloring of their father, Nathan with lighter brown but wavy hair. I believe that Hattie's father, Charles, probably had black curly hair.
Hattie came from Suwalki, Poland, as we gather. Her own mother had died young and her father, Charles Jermulowske, had remarried. More children were born who were her half brothers and sisters. I think her own mother was Esther, and that's why one of Hattie's daughters was named Elsie, or Essie in Yiddish. Hattie's other full siblings were Louis, Jenny and Bessy. At least their birthdates made this seem logical. Charles then remarried I think Dora Leah "Deborah" and had three more children; Lily, Charles and Alice. I remember Aunt Alice and her husband, Uncle Max well. They were my father's uncle and aunt and my great uncle and great aunt. They lived in Portland, Oregon and we attended a Passover Seder at their home.
Hattie was found in Council, Idaho marrying our grandfather on November 20, 1905. I can only imagine that the terrain was much like what she left in Poland, but am not really sure. Hopefully there she was also a rural person. However, as soon as her first child, Charles, was born, she and her husband, Nathan, moved to the big city of Portland, Oregon, probably for work prospects and also to be near a synagogue.
They moved to the South section of Portland, which is now "Old south Portland, where the Jews and the Italians settled. They did live within walking distance of a synagogue, the Mead Street Synagogue on First and Mead Streets.
Unfortunately, Nathan was killed in an accident in 1912 and Hattie was left alone to raise four teeny children without any help. She never did learn to speak English, only her native Yiddish. There were some Jewish organizations that helped out a little, but nothing in the city of Portland at that time in history. She was really on her own.
I often wonder who the 2nd wife of Charles was. Was she a sister of Hattie's real mother? If a woman dies, it was the custom to marry the next sister if she was unmarried.
So did her son, Charlie, while the other two children had the coloring of their father, Nathan with lighter brown but wavy hair. I believe that Hattie's father, Charles, probably had black curly hair.
Hattie came from Suwalki, Poland, as we gather. Her own mother had died young and her father, Charles Jermulowske, had remarried. More children were born who were her half brothers and sisters. I think her own mother was Esther, and that's why one of Hattie's daughters was named Elsie, or Essie in Yiddish. Hattie's other full siblings were Louis, Jenny and Bessy. At least their birthdates made this seem logical. Charles then remarried I think Dora Leah "Deborah" and had three more children; Lily, Charles and Alice. I remember Aunt Alice and her husband, Uncle Max well. They were my father's uncle and aunt and my great uncle and great aunt. They lived in Portland, Oregon and we attended a Passover Seder at their home.
Hattie was found in Council, Idaho marrying our grandfather on November 20, 1905. I can only imagine that the terrain was much like what she left in Poland, but am not really sure. Hopefully there she was also a rural person. However, as soon as her first child, Charles, was born, she and her husband, Nathan, moved to the big city of Portland, Oregon, probably for work prospects and also to be near a synagogue.
They moved to the South section of Portland, which is now "Old south Portland, where the Jews and the Italians settled. They did live within walking distance of a synagogue, the Mead Street Synagogue on First and Mead Streets.
Unfortunately, Nathan was killed in an accident in 1912 and Hattie was left alone to raise four teeny children without any help. She never did learn to speak English, only her native Yiddish. There were some Jewish organizations that helped out a little, but nothing in the city of Portland at that time in history. She was really on her own.
I often wonder who the 2nd wife of Charles was. Was she a sister of Hattie's real mother? If a woman dies, it was the custom to marry the next sister if she was unmarried.
Labels: mtDNA
Thursday, October 08, 2009
MT dna Sent In Today
Here I am in the cemetery standing by Hattie's grave. She lies by her husband, Nathan Goldfoot. .JPG)
In the picture are Hattie Goldfoot nee Jermulowske, her son Morris "Maurice" and his daughter, me, Nadene.
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In the picture are Hattie Goldfoot nee Jermulowske, her son Morris "Maurice" and his daughter, me, Nadene.Today I mailed our dna test back to familytreedna for our mitrochondrial test results. This was done by a female cousin yesterday and will tell us more about our grandmother, Hattie Jermulowske who was married to our grandfather, Nathan Goldfoot. It will take from 2 to 4 days to get back to the Houston lab and then probably will take another 2 months to get the results. Perhaps by Hanukah we should know what haplogroup she belonged to. I'm very excited about find out. From what I have learned, Hattie came from Suwalki, Poland but said she was a Litvak. This means her family was from Lithuania, I understand. She said it quite proudly, so being a Litvak could be a status symbol.
This is what I have found out about the Jewish female and her dna. I have it posted on another blog.
Tuesday, September 29, 2009
Jewish Women's DNA: K, H, J2, N1b, Others?
Testing the mtDNA of Jewish women have found that we trace back to four women who lived about within the last 2,000 years but not in the same place or time. They could have been from the Near East or even Europe. This is from Dr. Doron Behar in Haifa, Israel. My thinking is that they are not referring to our four matriarchs but to another set of four women much later. Again, our life was dependant on four such women becoming mothers.Those of us with ancestors from central and eastern Europe are called Ashkenazi Jews. We can be traced back to Jews who migrated from Israel to Italy in the 1st and 2nd centuries. That's where the term "Ghetto" came from. Jews were locked up behind fences at night. We then moved into Eastern Europe in the 12th and 13th centuries and moved about there. There were about 10 million of us Jews just before WWII. This is from history and the study of mtDNA from more than 11,000 samples from 67 populations.Our haplogroups are K-32%, H-21%, n1b-10%, J1-7%, and others.Practically no other groups have K except for the Druze who have 16%. That shows to me that Jewish women married men who were or became Druze. Of the K there are four main groups in Jewish women. They are all unique in Jews, except the group which is 33% of the total K's is very similar to a type found at low to moderate frequency amongst gentile women in both Europe and the Near East. K is a subbranch of U that is believed to have appeared in early stages of the Holocene Epoch. This is when populations expanded into Europe after the last glacial period. About 1/3 of people with Ashkenazi ancestry carry a subclade of this haplogroup.H-standing for Helena, though it is very common in Europe among gentiles, has unique characteristics in Jews My mother, whose mother was from Sweden who converted, is an H. So is her gentile sister-in-law with roots possibly from Germany. About half of Europe's women are H. This is connected to a population expansion about 20,000 years ago originating in the Caucasus or in Europe and now in 50% of those of European ancestry, and common in N. Africa and the Middle East.J, Ji, J2 originated about 45,000 years ago in central Asia. Connected with the spread of farming and herding in Europe during the Neolithis Period beginning 10,000 years ago, which would be about 8,000BCE. Common in the Near East, Europe, the Caucasus, N. Africa and the Middle East and among Jews. J2 is more localized in the Mediterranean. N1b-is present in low frequencies in Europe, the Caucasus, the Near East, Egypt and Arabia. It spread around 39,000 to 52,000 years ago, creating at least 4 ancestral clusters including haplogroup B. What happened about 1,000 years ago is that our Jewish population had declined to such a small group that the wipe-out is referred to as a BOTTLENECK. It was followed by a large growth. Therefore, almost half of Europe's Jews were from just four women who lived 1,000 years ago.Ashkenazi mtDNA is close to Moroccan Jewish mtDNA.Now I'm so curious about my father's mother that I'm going to have a female cousin tested to find out what dna we have. It's not enough to know who my parents are and where they came from anymore. I want to know the whole megilla. Our history is pretty exciting.My grandmother "Bubbi" was from Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania. I'm betting our mtDNA will be K. That seems popular in women from that area. I've sent for the kit today to test my cousin.Reference: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10827385/ns/technology_and_science-science/http://www.britam.org/Questions/mtDNA.htmlhttp://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v15/n4/full/5201764a.htmlBook: Tracing Your Jewish DNA for Family History & Ancestry by Anne Hart -haven't red it yet but want to, http://books.google.com/books?id=Z2-FHdT_bPkC&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=Jewish+mtDNA+in+Poland&source=bl&ots=IFUqFzl2Eu&sig=cr_h-HKeCZgu64frVEeEDOGwPe4&hl=en&ei=hWzCSsykE5G8sgO8jpzqAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#v=onepage&q=Jewish%20mtDNA%20in%20Poland&f=false
Posted by Nadene Goldfoot at 9:47 AM
Labels: Jews, mtDNA
This is what I have found out about the Jewish female and her dna. I have it posted on another blog.
Tuesday, September 29, 2009
Jewish Women's DNA: K, H, J2, N1b, Others?
Testing the mtDNA of Jewish women have found that we trace back to four women who lived about within the last 2,000 years but not in the same place or time. They could have been from the Near East or even Europe. This is from Dr. Doron Behar in Haifa, Israel. My thinking is that they are not referring to our four matriarchs but to another set of four women much later. Again, our life was dependant on four such women becoming mothers.Those of us with ancestors from central and eastern Europe are called Ashkenazi Jews. We can be traced back to Jews who migrated from Israel to Italy in the 1st and 2nd centuries. That's where the term "Ghetto" came from. Jews were locked up behind fences at night. We then moved into Eastern Europe in the 12th and 13th centuries and moved about there. There were about 10 million of us Jews just before WWII. This is from history and the study of mtDNA from more than 11,000 samples from 67 populations.Our haplogroups are K-32%, H-21%, n1b-10%, J1-7%, and others.Practically no other groups have K except for the Druze who have 16%. That shows to me that Jewish women married men who were or became Druze. Of the K there are four main groups in Jewish women. They are all unique in Jews, except the group which is 33% of the total K's is very similar to a type found at low to moderate frequency amongst gentile women in both Europe and the Near East. K is a subbranch of U that is believed to have appeared in early stages of the Holocene Epoch. This is when populations expanded into Europe after the last glacial period. About 1/3 of people with Ashkenazi ancestry carry a subclade of this haplogroup.H-standing for Helena, though it is very common in Europe among gentiles, has unique characteristics in Jews My mother, whose mother was from Sweden who converted, is an H. So is her gentile sister-in-law with roots possibly from Germany. About half of Europe's women are H. This is connected to a population expansion about 20,000 years ago originating in the Caucasus or in Europe and now in 50% of those of European ancestry, and common in N. Africa and the Middle East.J, Ji, J2 originated about 45,000 years ago in central Asia. Connected with the spread of farming and herding in Europe during the Neolithis Period beginning 10,000 years ago, which would be about 8,000BCE. Common in the Near East, Europe, the Caucasus, N. Africa and the Middle East and among Jews. J2 is more localized in the Mediterranean. N1b-is present in low frequencies in Europe, the Caucasus, the Near East, Egypt and Arabia. It spread around 39,000 to 52,000 years ago, creating at least 4 ancestral clusters including haplogroup B. What happened about 1,000 years ago is that our Jewish population had declined to such a small group that the wipe-out is referred to as a BOTTLENECK. It was followed by a large growth. Therefore, almost half of Europe's Jews were from just four women who lived 1,000 years ago.Ashkenazi mtDNA is close to Moroccan Jewish mtDNA.Now I'm so curious about my father's mother that I'm going to have a female cousin tested to find out what dna we have. It's not enough to know who my parents are and where they came from anymore. I want to know the whole megilla. Our history is pretty exciting.My grandmother "Bubbi" was from Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania. I'm betting our mtDNA will be K. That seems popular in women from that area. I've sent for the kit today to test my cousin.Reference: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10827385/ns/technology_and_science-science/http://www.britam.org/Questions/mtDNA.htmlhttp://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v15/n4/full/5201764a.htmlBook: Tracing Your Jewish DNA for Family History & Ancestry by Anne Hart -haven't red it yet but want to, http://books.google.com/books?id=Z2-FHdT_bPkC&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=Jewish+mtDNA+in+Poland&source=bl&ots=IFUqFzl2Eu&sig=cr_h-HKeCZgu64frVEeEDOGwPe4&hl=en&ei=hWzCSsykE5G8sgO8jpzqAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#v=onepage&q=Jewish%20mtDNA%20in%20Poland&f=false
Posted by Nadene Goldfoot at 9:47 AM
Labels: Jews, mtDNA
Labels: Lithuania, mtDNA, Poland
Friday, October 02, 2009
Nathan Goldfoot's Wife, Hattie Jerumulowske's dna
We sent for an mtDNA kit on September 28th for a first cousin to test for our female line of dna. It will be interesting to know if there is any connection with her being from Suwalki, Poland, and her husband, Nathan Goldfoot, who tested to be Q1b. Male and female dna are not connected in any way as far as where the dna is from in the cell or by the way they are listed. Jewish women's dna does have certain markers.
I do not know where Nathan was born other than "Russia" though most Goldfoot people we have found in searches came from Lithuania. Bubbie called herself a "Litvak". Parts of Poland had been in Lithuania at certain points in history.
Bubbie was terribly short and Nathan was seemingly tall. She had coal black curly curly hair and it looked like he had brown with possible reddish glints in it. They had two black haired children and two brown haired children. They looked as different as possible.
It must have been quite a love match as Bubbie never got over his accidental death at such an early age. Though she had other marriage proposals, she didn't take anyone up on them. I remember the candles lit on the death of his anniversary.
I think they met where they married in Council, Idaho. Bubbie was about 17 years old and had been living in a smaller adjacent mining town of Cuprum. She must have found work there doing something, what I have no idea! Cuprum (Latin for copper) is now a ghost town. In 1897 it had a post office built. They also built a hospital for the injured miners. I believe Bubbie lived there between 1903 and 1905 when she married Nathan in Council. It's best year was the next one of 1898. They thought the train would stop there but it never did.
Nathan must have stumbled into Council on the train that just began to go through the tiny mountain berg. There to his surprise he found a Jewish group made up of Bubbie's two sisters and their husbands. The husbands were merchants who came with good to trade and later were able to open a store. I don't think Bubbie had choices in finding a husband. There was one possibility in her life and it was Nathan. Tall, fair and handsome! Opposites attracted and they were married.
Reference: Cuprum, Idaho: http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/id/cuprum.html
I do not know where Nathan was born other than "Russia" though most Goldfoot people we have found in searches came from Lithuania. Bubbie called herself a "Litvak". Parts of Poland had been in Lithuania at certain points in history.
Bubbie was terribly short and Nathan was seemingly tall. She had coal black curly curly hair and it looked like he had brown with possible reddish glints in it. They had two black haired children and two brown haired children. They looked as different as possible.
It must have been quite a love match as Bubbie never got over his accidental death at such an early age. Though she had other marriage proposals, she didn't take anyone up on them. I remember the candles lit on the death of his anniversary.
I think they met where they married in Council, Idaho. Bubbie was about 17 years old and had been living in a smaller adjacent mining town of Cuprum. She must have found work there doing something, what I have no idea! Cuprum (Latin for copper) is now a ghost town. In 1897 it had a post office built. They also built a hospital for the injured miners. I believe Bubbie lived there between 1903 and 1905 when she married Nathan in Council. It's best year was the next one of 1898. They thought the train would stop there but it never did.
Nathan must have stumbled into Council on the train that just began to go through the tiny mountain berg. There to his surprise he found a Jewish group made up of Bubbie's two sisters and their husbands. The husbands were merchants who came with good to trade and later were able to open a store. I don't think Bubbie had choices in finding a husband. There was one possibility in her life and it was Nathan. Tall, fair and handsome! Opposites attracted and they were married.
Reference: Cuprum, Idaho: http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/id/cuprum.html
Labels: Council, Cuprum, Idaho, Jewish community, merchant, train stop
Thursday, October 01, 2009
Maurice Goldfoot of Portland, Oregon
Maurice Goldfoot was born July 1, 1908 to Nathan Goldfoot and Hattie Jermulowske in Portland, Oregon. He's enjoying a brief visit to the Pacific Ocean, probably at Cannon Beach in the picture. He'd take his wife and children there and then go right back to Portland to maintain his meat business. During the war he even worked in the shipyards as well as keep up his business. He died July 23, 1967 after being flown to Portland from Ontario, Oregon where he became ill. 